Malaysian finance minister: It's 'reasonable' to ask Goldman for $7.5 billion over 1MDB 'agony'

Malaysian Finance Minister Lim Guan Eng said Monday that the $ 7.5 billion his country is seeking from American investment bank Goldman Sachs over the 1Malaysia Development Berhad scandal is an “extremely reasonable” amount.

The scandal involved money being illegally transferred across shell companies and individual bank accounts in many countries. The U.S. Department of Justice previously alleged that Najib received $ 681 million from proceeds misappropriated from a bond issue arranged by Goldman Sachs in 2013.

Lim told The Financial Times last month that Malaysia was seeking $ 7.5 billion from Goldman Sachs and he told CNBC’s Emily Tan in a Monday interview at a financial forum in Hong Kong that the figure remains what the country deserves.

The finance minister argued that Malaysia never got any money from the issuance of bonds, the fees charged were “astronomical” and the terms were “very unfavorable.”

“So we are looking at a sum, a reasonable sum that can compensate the agony and the trauma as well as the losses that we suffered,” he said. “I think 7.5 billion U.S. dollars is an extremely reasonable figure.”

He also called on Goldman Sachs to “have a heart” and to include a mention in its annual earnings report that it would “make some provisions for some reparation payments to Malaysia.”

Contacted by CNBC about Lim’s comments, Edward Naylor, Goldman Sachs’ head of corporate communications for the Asia Pacific, referred in an email to previous statements the bank has made in which it called charges against it “misdirected” and vowed to “vigorously” defend against them.

Goldman Sachs has said that it was lied to by various parties including 1MDB and members of the previous Malaysian government and said it was given no chance to speak before charges were filed against some Goldman entities.

“What we earned from the debt transactions reflected the risks we assumed at the time, specifically movement in credit spreads tied to the specific bonds, hedging costs and underlying market conditions,” Goldman has said. “Comparisons to ‘fees’ from plain vanilla underwritings, which involve far less risk, are not relevant.”

Lim, a veteran politician, assumed his country’s finance portfolio last year after current Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad launched a new government. Malaysia, Lim told CNBC, will meet its goal of putting its finances order.

“We are on track to achieve our fiscal targets,” he said, referring to the nation’s aim of a fiscal deficit of 3.7 percent in three years.

Lim was speaking in reaction to Japanese investment bank Nomura’s downgrade last week of Malaysian shares from “neutral” to “underweight.” Nomura said the new Malaysian government’s lack of a “significant reform push” could lead to a worsening fiscal position and a possible slip in credit ratings.

Lim stressed that the Japanese bank’s pessimism about equities did not mean a downgrade of “the country as a whole.”

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